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scotland yard admitted two years ago they had hired him to help them improve their public relations. it has emerged that his daughter worked for the metropolitan police and john yates is alleged to help her get the job. when he went to downing street to learn how to restore the image, he made no mention of the relationship with neil waltz. it was that failure to be open that cost him and john yates they're careers. what divides the prime minister and the men from the met is oddly what also connects them. both hired former "news of the world" men to improve their image, the former editor, his deputy neil wallace was hired by yates and stevenson. all insist that they knew nothing about hacking. >> welcome, >> thank you very much. >> the prime minister is on an awkwardly timed trip to south africa. he will return home to make another statement on hacking disputing the holiday by a day. the labor leader says he is incapeable to give the leadership that is required. >> the country needs strong and responsive leadership to restore trust. the prime minister is unable to show that leadership
scotland yard admitted two years ago they had hired him to help them improve their public relations. it has emerged that his daughter worked for the metropolitan police and john yates is alleged to help her get the job. when he went to downing street to learn how to restore the image, he made no mention of the relationship with neil waltz. it was that failure to be open that cost him and john yates they're careers. what divides the prime minister and the men from the met is oddly what also...
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> ifill: the phone hacking crisis deepened in britain today with a second high-level resignation at scotland yard and the death of a whistleblower. good evening, i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, weç get the latest on the scandal including claims of illegal eavesdropping and bribery by journalists working for rupert murdoch's news corp from ned temko of the "london observer." >> ifill: then, we examine president obama's pick to lead a new consumer protection agency. >> woodruff: from indonesia, ray suarez reports on a nation coming to grips with mental health disorders even as its institutions lock up and chain patients. >> this enormous country has almost no psychiatrists,çç leaving the mentally ill with very few options for treatment. >> ifill: kwame holman brings us the latest on the showdown over raising the government's borrowing limit. >> woodruff: and jeffrey brown talks to legendary concert pianist leon fleisher about overcoming a disability that nearly silenced his career. >> if there was a way that i could remain active in music w
> ifill: the phone hacking crisis deepened in britain today with a second high-level resignation at scotland yard and the death of a whistleblower. good evening, i'm gwen ifill. >> woodruff: and i'm judy woodruff. on the "newshour" tonight, weç get the latest on the scandal including claims of illegal eavesdropping and bribery by journalists working for rupert murdoch's news corp from ned temko of the "london observer." >> ifill: then, we examine president...
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the fabled scotland yard is reeling after two sudden resignations of its most senior leadership. sir paul stephenson, the police chief, and his deputy, john yates, career policemen who are the latest casualties in the phone hacking scandal. scotland yard is being accused of mishandling the investigation into "news of the world qug, maintaining at times close relationships with the very people they were supposed to be investigating. police officers accepting bribes from reporters has allegedly been commonplace. stephenson and yates deny any wrong doing on their part. >> i have acted with complete integrity and my conscience is clear. >> now the department tasked with counterterrorism and the 2012 olympics must find new leadership. what started as a scandal involving a single newspaper has now grown so large, it is rocking this country's institutions and the murdoch empire. so far, there has been four high profile resignations, ten arrests. most recently, rebecca brooks, one of rupert murdoch's most trusted executives. she resigned and was arrested two days later brooks, who denies
the fabled scotland yard is reeling after two sudden resignations of its most senior leadership. sir paul stephenson, the police chief, and his deputy, john yates, career policemen who are the latest casualties in the phone hacking scandal. scotland yard is being accused of mishandling the investigation into "news of the world qug, maintaining at times close relationships with the very people they were supposed to be investigating. police officers accepting bribes from reporters has...
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. >> head of scotland yard resigned yesterday. >> rebekah brooks was released on jail. >> rupert murdoch is said to face the scandal head-on tomorrow. >> now we move to david cameron. >> is cutting short a trip today to south africa. >> order. when are they going to do the decent thing and resign? >> congress now has 15 days to pass a bill to raise the debt ceiling before the united states government goes into a catastrophic default on august 2nd. today harry reid announced the senate will meet every day until the debt ceiling is raised. yesterday, david rogers of politico discovered and reported that house speaker john boehner and eric cantor held a secret meeting with barack obama at the white house. a republican leadership aide said "the lines of communication are being kept open, but there's nothing to report in terms of an agreement or progress." tomorrow the house republicans will hold a vote on the tea party's preferred solution to deficit reduction, the cut, cap, and balance bill, a bill that would slash spending and make raising taxes even more impossible than it seems to be now
. >> head of scotland yard resigned yesterday. >> rebekah brooks was released on jail. >> rupert murdoch is said to face the scandal head-on tomorrow. >> now we move to david cameron. >> is cutting short a trip today to south africa. >> order. when are they going to do the decent thing and resign? >> congress now has 15 days to pass a bill to raise the debt ceiling before the united states government goes into a catastrophic default on august 2nd. today...
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of dow jones resigned over the weekend former news of the world at the rebecca brooks was arrested scotland yard chief paul stephenson stepped down on sunday night and by today john yates the assistant commissioner was also on his way now at the request of certain members of congress eric holder and the justice department have now launched an investigation into whether or not victims of nine eleven had also been hacked and bloomberg reported today that news corp's independent directors have begun it questioning the company's response to the crisis and whether a leadership change is needed they cited unnamed sources there so is it time to start questioning if murdoch's time as a media moguls coming to an end and is this the scandal of the left has been waiting for joining me to discuss it is katrina vanden you will editor and publisher of the nation magazine katrina thanks so much for joining us tonight it's been a while since we've had you on the program now what do you think is murdoch is he going to step down is he going to be forced to is there any way they continue on can continue on hi
of dow jones resigned over the weekend former news of the world at the rebecca brooks was arrested scotland yard chief paul stephenson stepped down on sunday night and by today john yates the assistant commissioner was also on his way now at the request of certain members of congress eric holder and the justice department have now launched an investigation into whether or not victims of nine eleven had also been hacked and bloomberg reported today that news corp's independent directors have...
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who cares if the head of scotland yard resigns. why is scotland yard policing england anyway? call me when the head of england yard resigns nap's news. >> time for your political ticker with tim farley. listen, i want to show you a poll. as the clock ticks -- as we get closer to that deadline for the debt ceiling, a new cbs poll shows that 46% say that the debt ceiling should be raised. compared to 24% in june. 49% shouldn't compared to 69% in june. the president has asked for a deal to get done by friday. what is your sense of it? >> sense right now is that -- something. it closer to the mitch mcconnell solution. which would involve a less con view lated series of events. the president vie toting the house and senate. i think that's the direction we're heading. some things in there about cuts. we'll have to wait and see. i hi we'll know by friday where we are going on this, finally. >> a couple of distractions. one is news corporation. people are paying attention to thatpy understand both martin sheen and michael vick are going to be on capitol hill and it has nothing to do w
who cares if the head of scotland yard resigns. why is scotland yard policing england anyway? call me when the head of england yard resigns nap's news. >> time for your political ticker with tim farley. listen, i want to show you a poll. as the clock ticks -- as we get closer to that deadline for the debt ceiling, a new cbs poll shows that 46% say that the debt ceiling should be raised. compared to 24% in june. 49% shouldn't compared to 69% in june. the president has asked for a deal to...
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. >> the other part of the story so many facets to it is the corruption allegations at scotland yard, the police agency. we're starting today's testimony with the police. >> reporter: that's right. two of the top cops in the country, former metropolitan police commissioner already resigned and then john yates in charge of the phone hacking investigation review he too resigned yesterday. this is how far the scandal has gone. it cast a shadow over scotland yard and everyone now especially lawmakers are trying to get to the bottom of just how much corruption was there, how cozy was the relationship between news of the world and scotland yard. >> it's going to have implications for david cameron's government. andy coleson is being alleged to have known about this when he was heading up the newspaper. >> reporter: this goes to show how it goes to the very hard of politics here basically andy was the chief spin doctor for prime minister david cameron so this is a major embarrassment for him and it's so bad that he's coming back to england early from his trip to south africa specifically to
. >> the other part of the story so many facets to it is the corruption allegations at scotland yard, the police agency. we're starting today's testimony with the police. >> reporter: that's right. two of the top cops in the country, former metropolitan police commissioner already resigned and then john yates in charge of the phone hacking investigation review he too resigned yesterday. this is how far the scandal has gone. it cast a shadow over scotland yard and everyone now...
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the he's he's now been found the key thing is ten people arrested close to murder the head of scotland yard as you said his deputy what we are seen is the criminal need political nexus corroding in the u.k. and as you pointed out very important questions now need to be raised about murder about his empire and their activities in this country the u.k. will have if you're into more calling grouper and his son james murdoch it will be watched but once you have the police involved as we've seen not just hacking but the driver of police or secret insider information i think all. but do you think that let's say is rupert murdoch is he smart enough to say that hey this is the brits this is the way that they do it yes of course he is the head of this massive british media empire there but british journalism tabloid journalism specifically has always been known to go a couple of steps farther than the u.s. press has so if his hands aren't exactly dirty do you think that it will still come down to him that he himself as a key figure with all suffer well what murdoch and his p.r. firms are trying
the he's he's now been found the key thing is ten people arrested close to murder the head of scotland yard as you said his deputy what we are seen is the criminal need political nexus corroding in the u.k. and as you pointed out very important questions now need to be raised about murder about his empire and their activities in this country the u.k. will have if you're into more calling grouper and his son james murdoch it will be watched but once you have the police involved as we've seen not...
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as british police confirmed today that a second former "news of the world" employee was employed by scotland yard. while the editor of the irish edition of "news of the world," alex morinchuck, was also employed by police as a ukrainian language interpreter with access to highly sensitive police information between 1980 and 2000. yesterday, it was revealed that former "news of the world" executive neil wallis worked as a public relations adviser to the police department. that news forced britain's top cop, sir paul stephenson, to announce his resignation as police commissioner. former news international ceo rebekah brooks made more news today when detectives found a computer, paperwork, and a phone in a trash bin near her home. her husband claims a cleaner must have mistaken it for trash and put it in the bin. rebekah brooks was arrested and questioned for nine hours sunday, but no charges have been filed as of yet. brooks, who resigned from her post friday, is also scheduled to testify with murdoch and his son james before parliament. and in a bizarre and cinematic twist, scandal whistle bl
as british police confirmed today that a second former "news of the world" employee was employed by scotland yard. while the editor of the irish edition of "news of the world," alex morinchuck, was also employed by police as a ukrainian language interpreter with access to highly sensitive police information between 1980 and 2000. yesterday, it was revealed that former "news of the world" executive neil wallis worked as a public relations adviser to the police...
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watson also went onto say, talking about he suggests that you were present at a meeting with scotland yard when police officers conducted a murder investigation providing you with evidence that your newspaper was interfering with the pursuit of justice. he mentioned alex marancak, and a member of the metropolitan police. can you tell us more about that meet stph-g. >> i can tell you something about it, but i was asked to recall a meeting that i'd had at scotland yard in 2002, and i had -- i was asked recently i think by channel 4 if that story was referring to my information. and my recollection of that meeting was entirely different. my recollection of the meeting was on a completely different subject. and so i'm only going on what i was told by channel 4. they say it's a meeting in november that i had, that was what was put to me. i checked my diary as much as possible and there was no meeting in november. however, there was a subsequent meeting in very early january. it may be that it was that meeting. that was not my recollection of the meeting. but on the other hand because of th
watson also went onto say, talking about he suggests that you were present at a meeting with scotland yard when police officers conducted a murder investigation providing you with evidence that your newspaper was interfering with the pursuit of justice. he mentioned alex marancak, and a member of the metropolitan police. can you tell us more about that meet stph-g. >> i can tell you something about it, but i was asked to recall a meeting that i'd had at scotland yard in 2002, and i had --...
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. >> brown: at a separate hearing, the just-resigned head of scotland yard-- sir paul stephenson-- also denied wrongdoing. he said he was embarrassed that he'd hired a former "news of the world" executive, neil wallis, as a public relations consultant. wallis has now been arrested. >> i had no reason to connect wallis with phone hacking. i had no reason to doubt his impropriety. nothing had come to my attention. i had no knowledge of the previous inquiry, and i had no reason to enquire of the previous inquiry, and i had been given assurances by a senior grade chief constable that actually there was nothing new. >> brown: away from the hearings, scotland yard announced today it found no outside involvement in the death of sean hoare, a former "news of the world" reporter who'd been an early whistleblower in the scandal. hoare was found dead monday at his home north of london. more now on today's hearings and the murdoch media empire. we're joined, from london, by john burns of "the new york times," and from new york, by david folkenflik, who covers the media for npr. so, john burns, what
. >> brown: at a separate hearing, the just-resigned head of scotland yard-- sir paul stephenson-- also denied wrongdoing. he said he was embarrassed that he'd hired a former "news of the world" executive, neil wallis, as a public relations consultant. wallis has now been arrested. >> i had no reason to connect wallis with phone hacking. i had no reason to doubt his impropriety. nothing had come to my attention. i had no knowledge of the previous inquiry, and i had no...
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that he personally authorized either the payment of a bribe to a foreign governmental official, like a scotland yard office, or news corp hid bribes by falsifying books and records and that latter possibility is really the more likely one, because almost no company has disclosed they are paying bribes. somewhere in news corp there will be liability if you hid bribes that, were, in fact, paid. >> in terms of exposure to the american part of the company, am i right in thinking that if that is proven if there were bribes being paid, either anonymously or in fake names, whatever it may be, if it were paid by news international, a british company, does that still impact on the american part of the business? >> there are two distinctions here, if the bribes are paid by news international, i think it is unlikely that u.s. prosecutors would want to go after bribery to british governmental officials. i think they would still be interested in the books and records of news corp. news international is conso consolidated with news corp. and those records fail to disclosed there were bribes paid. and $8 mill
that he personally authorized either the payment of a bribe to a foreign governmental official, like a scotland yard office, or news corp hid bribes by falsifying books and records and that latter possibility is really the more likely one, because almost no company has disclosed they are paying bribes. somewhere in news corp there will be liability if you hid bribes that, were, in fact, paid. >> in terms of exposure to the american part of the company, am i right in thinking that if that...
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the controversy has forced the head of scotland yard and his deputy to resign over their alleged links to a former murdoch executive. the scandal has reached the highest levels of the british government, with opposition leaders saying the prime minister himself has questions to answer about his close ties to the murdoch empire. >> but at the moment, he seems unable to provide the leadership the country needs. >> reporter: rebekah brooks is a friend and a neighbor to the prime minister. the pair have met repeatedly since cameron took office 14 months ago. the prime minister cut short a trip to africa and called for an emergency session of parliament. in a further twist to the scandal, police found one of the first whistleblowers about hacking dead in his home. police are calling sean hoare's death unexplained, but not suspicious. now the murdochs have been coached by the best pr company in the land. not just on what to say, but how to say it. this is all about damage limitation, taking care of business here, and making sure it doesn't spread to the murdoch empire in the u.s. betty? >> a
the controversy has forced the head of scotland yard and his deputy to resign over their alleged links to a former murdoch executive. the scandal has reached the highest levels of the british government, with opposition leaders saying the prime minister himself has questions to answer about his close ties to the murdoch empire. >> but at the moment, he seems unable to provide the leadership the country needs. >> reporter: rebekah brooks is a friend and a neighbor to the prime...
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also the assistant commissioner of scotland yard resigned one day after his boss quit. also the former news of the world reporter who blew the whistle was found dead. hackers took aim as well focusing on the sun and shutting down the london times. murdoch will be questioned tomorrow and sources say that the decision to replace him may depend on his performance. the scandal caused him to close the news of the world. the former head of the paper rebecca brooks is also supposed to be questioned. brooks has the editor when the alleged hacking of a murder victim's phone happened. >> a lot is riding on tomorrow's testimony. murdoch, his son scheduled to appear. how the scandal may affect his united states holdings. >> reporter: one did he or his top executives know of or condone the illegal hacking and two did the company illegally influence the british police investigation? the former united states attorney said practices law applies plays the parent of fox is american. >> prohibits american companies from using any resources basically to bribe foreign officials for whatever
also the assistant commissioner of scotland yard resigned one day after his boss quit. also the former news of the world reporter who blew the whistle was found dead. hackers took aim as well focusing on the sun and shutting down the london times. murdoch will be questioned tomorrow and sources say that the decision to replace him may depend on his performance. the scandal caused him to close the news of the world. the former head of the paper rebecca brooks is also supposed to be questioned....
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also the assistant commissioner of scotland yard resigned one day after his boss quit. also the former news of the world reporter who blew the whistle was found dead. hackers took aim as well focusing on the sun and shutting down the london times. murdoch will be questioned tomorrow and sources say that the decision to replace him may depend on his performance. the scandal caused him to close the news of the world. the former head of the paper rebecca brooks is also supposed to be questioned. brooks has the editor when the alleged hacking of a murder victim's phone happened. >> a lot is riding on tomorrow's testimony. murdoch, his son scheduled to appear. how the scandal may affect his united states holdings. >> reporter: one did he or his top executives know of or condone the illegal hacking and two did the company illegally influence the british police investigation? the former united states attorney said practices law applies plays the parent of fox is american. >> prohibits american companies from using any resources basically to bribe foreign officials for whatever
also the assistant commissioner of scotland yard resigned one day after his boss quit. also the former news of the world reporter who blew the whistle was found dead. hackers took aim as well focusing on the sun and shutting down the london times. murdoch will be questioned tomorrow and sources say that the decision to replace him may depend on his performance. the scandal caused him to close the news of the world. the former head of the paper rebecca brooks is also supposed to be questioned....
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. >> the top two at scotland yard are now out. this is going to lop don this week -- london this weekend to look at the olympics. in one year from now, the world is coming there and scotland yard is in tatters. >> a lot to go. >> thanks, guys. >>> coming up, somalia is becoming the next target on the war on terror. the investigative reporter for the nation, jeremy skayhill. and chief white house correspondent chuck todd. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. my contacts are so annoying. i can't wait to take 'em out. [ male announcer ] know the feeling? try acuvue® oasys brand contact lenses with hydraclear® plus for exceptional comfort. it feels like it disappeared on my eye! [ male announcer ] discover why it's the brand eye doctors trust most for comfort. acuvue® oasys brand. [ male announcer ] get ready for the left lane. the volkswagen autobahn for all event is back. right now, get a great deal on new volkswagen models, including the cc. and every volkswagen includes scheduled carefree maintenance. that's the p
. >> the top two at scotland yard are now out. this is going to lop don this week -- london this weekend to look at the olympics. in one year from now, the world is coming there and scotland yard is in tatters. >> a lot to go. >> thanks, guys. >>> coming up, somalia is becoming the next target on the war on terror. the investigative reporter for the nation, jeremy skayhill. and chief white house correspondent chuck todd. you're watching "morning joe" brewed...
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you would've been able to get search warrant and have 11,000 pages of evidence with scotland yard. >> the news international letters demonstrates that they are cooperating with police inquiries, and have evidence and there was evidence they were cooperating because they were providing. unless you contrary evidence that they were deliberately obstructing you in anyway, you cannot get a production lawyer. there's lawyers at this table i know who will reiterate that. you cannot get evidence, and i'm one of them. >> the reality is you are seeking to blame the legal process for something that is actually the metropolitan police fault, isn't? >> completely disagree with your. >> can i ask you this quick do you know who first recommended mr. wallis to mr. fedorcio? >> i don't know that. >> you didn't make inquiries about that when you were asked? [inaudible] >> did you make inquiries about mr. wallis? wallis? at all from a mr. fedorcio? deana who recommended him speakers i do not recall how it came in this process in terms of who else on the list was responsible for producing the tendering p
you would've been able to get search warrant and have 11,000 pages of evidence with scotland yard. >> the news international letters demonstrates that they are cooperating with police inquiries, and have evidence and there was evidence they were cooperating because they were providing. unless you contrary evidence that they were deliberately obstructing you in anyway, you cannot get a production lawyer. there's lawyers at this table i know who will reiterate that. you cannot get evidence,...
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, the allegation is that he passed a substantial volume of information that was extremely useful to scotland yard and in return mr. philbeck received information from the police computer -- >> well, i don't know about that, and most journalists who work as a crime editor or a crime correspondents have a working relationship with that their particular police force. >> when our report was published in early 2010, was when you were chief executive of "news international" and there was certain things where obviously we, a reporter we have found that the evidence from the people of "news international" was wholly unsatisfactory and the amnesia and inconceivable that clyde was a rogue reporter as have been passed on to us, and that we referred to the neville e-mail in there, and awe -- all of that kind of stuff, and when you were chief executive of "news international" at the time that the report was published, did you read the report? >> yes, i did. i'm not saying i read every single word of it, but i read a large majority of it and i particularly read the criticisms addressed to the company, and
, the allegation is that he passed a substantial volume of information that was extremely useful to scotland yard and in return mr. philbeck received information from the police computer -- >> well, i don't know about that, and most journalists who work as a crime editor or a crime correspondents have a working relationship with that their particular police force. >> when our report was published in early 2010, was when you were chief executive of "news international" and...
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scotland yard at the same time. neil wallace's daughter apparently and so on so on how far does it go? >> this is something i don't know. something various different inquiries launched will have to get to the bottom of. one thing that is clear there was culture this was normal. wasn't just a few bad apples doing bad things. if i had had been some ways we would be left worrying. actually a culture this seemed fine, people good people and good police officers thought it was normal to have lunch with a journalist and take a little bit of a -- >> that was wrong. >> that was wrong. you have to root out the whole thing. not just the few individuals. >> why did boris johnson when some of this come up say, a lot of is --. degree of complacency going to the very top within london, wasn't there? >> i think whole political class have underestimated this for a very long time because frankly we were all the in the business of trying to win approval of various newspapers and various journalists and editors and even proprietors. y
scotland yard at the same time. neil wallace's daughter apparently and so on so on how far does it go? >> this is something i don't know. something various different inquiries launched will have to get to the bottom of. one thing that is clear there was culture this was normal. wasn't just a few bad apples doing bad things. if i had had been some ways we would be left worrying. actually a culture this seemed fine, people good people and good police officers thought it was normal to have...
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this is producing interests facts between murdoch's newspapers and scotland yards. >> the british tabloid schedule and unprecedented day for the owner at the center of it. elizabeth palmer is outside parliament with the latest. >> reporter: as you said, the murdochs have been testifying in front of what is technically a committee on media culture and sport. but i can tell you that the atmosphere around here is much more like a cross between epic drama and an imposition. the set for this drama, the splendor of britain's westminster parliament. the star of the show, media titan rupert murdoch. as investors around the world hanging on his every word and gesture. he is used to giving orders and not answering questions especially from politicians who until recently held him in either awe or terror. >> this is the most humble day of my life. >> reporter: by his side, his son james, the senior executive in the murdoch family empire. >> the company has admitted liability to victims of illegal voice mail interceptions, has apologized unreservedly, which i repeat today, to those victims, and the co
this is producing interests facts between murdoch's newspapers and scotland yards. >> the british tabloid schedule and unprecedented day for the owner at the center of it. elizabeth palmer is outside parliament with the latest. >> reporter: as you said, the murdochs have been testifying in front of what is technically a committee on media culture and sport. but i can tell you that the atmosphere around here is much more like a cross between epic drama and an imposition. the set for...
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even knew about the yates investigation because i think that you organize the press to be outside scotland yard, or your department did when he made his statement saying that he was not taking matters further. why did you employ him knowing this? >> i want to be as open and helpful as akin to the committee, but as you will be aware on a couple hours ago -- [inaudible] for investigation. i have not been able to take advice in the times i hope that you'll bear with me and perhaps guide me. [inaudible] spent all of our witnesses have been referred to the independent commission and that didn't stop the commissioner, so you can take your guidance of him. this is a committee of parliament which is sovereign, and we can take evidence where ever we want and tell summit is charged with a criminal offense and there's no risk of you being charged, is the? >> i don't believe so. >> so you're free to answer our questions because the point i may, i have not had the opportunity of independent advice were others may have. >> if you could answer our questions. we know the facts, or background anyway. you c
even knew about the yates investigation because i think that you organize the press to be outside scotland yard, or your department did when he made his statement saying that he was not taking matters further. why did you employ him knowing this? >> i want to be as open and helpful as akin to the committee, but as you will be aware on a couple hours ago -- [inaudible] for investigation. i have not been able to take advice in the times i hope that you'll bear with me and perhaps guide me....
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who was working for the news as a translator, scotland yard at the same time and so on. >> i don't know that this is something of what has been launched but what is clear is there was a culture in which it just wasn't a few bad apples doing bad things. of it was we would be left tory but now people who word good people thought it was normal to have lunch with a journalist and maybe take something to be wrong. >> and then it why when this came up? there was a degree of complacency. >> the whole political class i have underestimated this for a long time because frankly we are trying to win the approve real hotbed of editors and even proprietors and we are all at fault for pro he is not excluded nor the only one. >> do you worry there would be more resignations over the mass? these two at the top of the tree but they were feeding them information that turned out to be rubbish spam if their house of been a proper investigation. but those before anybody have the proper investment, here is a nonsense being spoken you are constantly in the media spotlight and a target for fleet street. it is a
who was working for the news as a translator, scotland yard at the same time and so on. >> i don't know that this is something of what has been launched but what is clear is there was a culture in which it just wasn't a few bad apples doing bad things. of it was we would be left tory but now people who word good people thought it was normal to have lunch with a journalist and maybe take something to be wrong. >> and then it why when this came up? there was a degree of complacency....